This made me chuckle. Part of software development in 2025 is covertly getting high signal feedback from (watching) actual users of the product, and ignoring high noise feedback from "stakeholders" who often don't (know how to) use the product.
I don't know where they keep finding these product managers, but they must have one hell of a smile and handshake to get hired and then never learn the product or ever contribute anything of value.
I do actually really like this, but there it is a little ironic that the website advocates for straightforward, unpretentious UI (e.g., one should make a button "look like button" not, say, a kitschy bird), but this idea is expressed not through plain-spoken words, but a kitschy caveperson gimmick.
I think this kind of undermines the point, and goes a long way to showing that sometimes the best way to communicate actually is in a way that is unique.
Grug Dev is my hero, the pinnacle of the bell curve meme.
Grug design reads like a shallow copy, not written by an actual designer but by a developer with a passing, and frustrated, experience with design. It also lacks references to shiny rocks and complexity daemon, and *shaman*. Because the design system shaman reliably summons the daemons.
That's why it is best to access sites like HN through the RSS feed since that takes this power out of the hands of those moderators and puts it back where it belongs, in the hands of the observer/reader/user.
Grug like dense UI, but grug also remember what web look like before people who knew newspapers used it.
Newspapers look like they do for a reason. Grug eye tired sweeping too far left-right.
Grug split difference, leave room for user to use tiling window manager to make article take up half screen while other half is HN box to talk about article.
Is this just a karma farm from a previous highly rated post / concept.
Seems like they just pasted the original grug article into gpt and said rewrite this but about design.
exactly, turned me off. I don't particularly like the "design" either which is ironic.
Sometimes things don't have a reason beyond: "It was fun to make." shrug
> stakeholder bad
This made me chuckle. Part of software development in 2025 is covertly getting high signal feedback from (watching) actual users of the product, and ignoring high noise feedback from "stakeholders" who often don't (know how to) use the product.
I don't know where they keep finding these product managers, but they must have one hell of a smile and handshake to get hired and then never learn the product or ever contribute anything of value.
Monospace is such a pain to read and immediately discredits anything this author has to say.
The real https://grugbrain.dev has much better design.
> grug try to avoid pain
Website doesn't scroll unless you are directly inside the main div.
Also that HTML is an abomination for such a minimal site...
Grug wanted me to let you know that Grug sad and Grug will fix.
I do actually really like this, but there it is a little ironic that the website advocates for straightforward, unpretentious UI (e.g., one should make a button "look like button" not, say, a kitschy bird), but this idea is expressed not through plain-spoken words, but a kitschy caveperson gimmick.
I think this kind of undermines the point, and goes a long way to showing that sometimes the best way to communicate actually is in a way that is unique.
Grug Dev is my hero, the pinnacle of the bell curve meme.
Grug design reads like a shallow copy, not written by an actual designer but by a developer with a passing, and frustrated, experience with design. It also lacks references to shiny rocks and complexity daemon, and *shaman*. Because the design system shaman reliably summons the daemons.
Somehow this was on the front page for a bit, but 3 hours later doesn't even show up 10 pages from the front. Some mod really didn't like this one
That's why it is best to access sites like HN through the RSS feed since that takes this power out of the hands of those moderators and puts it back where it belongs, in the hands of the observer/reader/user.
This doesn't seem like good advice and I doubt it's from the original grug (htmx dev) author
It is not. The original is much better.
> grug not need Helvetica Neue Ultra Thin Condensed Oblique for error message.
That's a very sophisticated statement from a cave ~painter~ designer :)
> too much space = scroll scroll scroll = brain tired.
> grug like dense UI that show all tools.
And yet I have to scroll on this very site while two thirds of my monitor are empty.
Grug like dense UI, but grug also remember what web look like before people who knew newspapers used it.
Newspapers look like they do for a reason. Grug eye tired sweeping too far left-right.
Grug split difference, leave room for user to use tiling window manager to make article take up half screen while other half is HN box to talk about article.
> grug
> scroll override
no. bad grug
TIL grug needs a trademark
recent related grug:
The Grug Brained Developer (2022)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44303542