I've long thought about why the tools we have operate on screenshots, and not the accessibility tree. To me the latter would have seemed like the obvious choice from the beginning (structured data), but yet, here we are with pixels. Happy to see progress being made here.
While the accessibility tree is great in many aspects it has its own limitations for example when it comes to stacked views or lazy loading outside the viewport.
lahfir, I vouched your (currently still dead) comment because it was interesting to me.
I expect the reason it is dead is that it seems LLM-generated (you "quietly" launched it on github? Who says that?).
Also, your comment claims that the tool is cross-platform and implies that it works on Mac, Windows, and Linux, but the graphic on the github README says it only works on Mac.
It looks hybrid human/LLM at best, but definitely possible that it's mostly human, from someone who is earnestly learning how to use "pitch" language. I got the feeling that some parts, like the bullet points, maybe originated from AI-generated documentation/readme's.
My intuition tells me that it could have been AI-generated, but if that's the case then it was heavily edited by a human. I think anyone who went through it for that would have changed other things as well. That's why I suspect it's pseudo-artificial pitch "coded" human writing with some (mostly, lightly edited) copy/paste of AI bullet points.
Then again, I can't find snippets of this language in the repo, so maybe I'm losing my discernment as LLMs advance (as well as the humans who are learning how to use them).
I think this guy is using AI for pretty much everything - he says as much in his GH profile. In fact his photo bears a Gemini watermark, meaning that is AI too.
Wouldn't the opposite be true? That an llm would use well-known terms for general purpose writing. I think it's much more likely that a human would remember 'silent' launch, or 'stealth' launch, and use silent as a substitute.
I feel very strongly that comment wasn't AI generated.
Also, there's a bunch of normal comments that seem to be wrongfully flagged.
I don't think the accessibility story on Linux is comprehensive enough to make this possible unfortunately. Especially with Wayland. One advantage Mac apps have is they're all targeting the same underlying OS primitives, which is the layer their accessibility platform lives at.
The levels of support are radically different. Compositors, window managers, UI frameworks, and apps all have mixed and inconsistent levels of support such that the overall experience is that you simply cannot rely on using a Linux system via accessibility.
Looks very interesting. Especially like that language environment is abstracted away, through cli, such that one are not stuck with for example python to write your UI logic (or create your own cli wrapper around PyAutoGUI).
How can one help with implementing Linux and Windows support?
The best desktop automation system would take HDMI input and output USB keystrokes and mouse movements so that it can be plugged into any computer transparently, including work computers.
I've long thought about why the tools we have operate on screenshots, and not the accessibility tree. To me the latter would have seemed like the obvious choice from the beginning (structured data), but yet, here we are with pixels. Happy to see progress being made here.
While the accessibility tree is great in many aspects it has its own limitations for example when it comes to stacked views or lazy loading outside the viewport.
I think screenshots also don't help with stacked views and lazy loading outside the viewport
Related tool: https://is.gd/X1KScw — AI specifically trained on off-grid/survival scenarios. Free.
lahfir, I vouched your (currently still dead) comment because it was interesting to me.
I expect the reason it is dead is that it seems LLM-generated (you "quietly" launched it on github? Who says that?).
Also, your comment claims that the tool is cross-platform and implies that it works on Mac, Windows, and Linux, but the graphic on the github README says it only works on Mac.
It looks hybrid human/LLM at best, but definitely possible that it's mostly human, from someone who is earnestly learning how to use "pitch" language. I got the feeling that some parts, like the bullet points, maybe originated from AI-generated documentation/readme's.
My intuition tells me that it could have been AI-generated, but if that's the case then it was heavily edited by a human. I think anyone who went through it for that would have changed other things as well. That's why I suspect it's pseudo-artificial pitch "coded" human writing with some (mostly, lightly edited) copy/paste of AI bullet points.
Then again, I can't find snippets of this language in the repo, so maybe I'm losing my discernment as LLMs advance (as well as the humans who are learning how to use them).
I think this guy is using AI for pretty much everything - he says as much in his GH profile. In fact his photo bears a Gemini watermark, meaning that is AI too.
Wouldn't the opposite be true? That an llm would use well-known terms for general purpose writing. I think it's much more likely that a human would remember 'silent' launch, or 'stealth' launch, and use silent as a substitute.
I feel very strongly that comment wasn't AI generated.
Also, there's a bunch of normal comments that seem to be wrongfully flagged.
3 fake comments in the thread also
Why is Claude always pointing out or assuming what is done quietly?
Looks interesting but like every single one of these computer use apps I've seen, it's macOS only.
Does anyone know of a linux one?
I don't think the accessibility story on Linux is comprehensive enough to make this possible unfortunately. Especially with Wayland. One advantage Mac apps have is they're all targeting the same underlying OS primitives, which is the layer their accessibility platform lives at.
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The levels of support are radically different. Compositors, window managers, UI frameworks, and apps all have mixed and inconsistent levels of support such that the overall experience is that you simply cannot rely on using a Linux system via accessibility.
There is AT-SPI2:
https://invent.kde.org/sdk/selenium-webdriver-at-spi
Looks very interesting. Especially like that language environment is abstracted away, through cli, such that one are not stuck with for example python to write your UI logic (or create your own cli wrapper around PyAutoGUI).
How can one help with implementing Linux and Windows support?
The best desktop automation system would take HDMI input and output USB keystrokes and mouse movements so that it can be plugged into any computer transparently, including work computers.
You don't need hdmi out, just ability to do screenshots, which easy to script.
Arguably though, browser automation gets you 95% of the way there for most things.
Many systems won't allow the end user to install any software (e.g. work issued laptops), but you can plug in HDMI and USB.
This is neat! Tried the finder example and was impressed how quick it was.
I would love it if it can support ios simulator, iphone? I am using Maestro but it is so damn slow and seems to be token hungry.
https://github.com/callstackincubator/agent-device
i knew it... macos
OP claims cross platform.
Interesting, would be nice to see a demo video apart from that unclear GIF
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This is big if it works. Nice job!