I've tried it now a little. The UI looks very cool, and generally the project is cool so congrats!
However, the generated TikZ code is not good in my opinion. Everything uses absolute coordinates, which in TikZ is seldom needed.
Just to start, if I place a single node I get absolute coordinates for it. Why?
If you just write `\node {Hello};`, TikZ will put that at the center of the bounding box. No need to tell it's at `(0.5,2.91)` like it's happening in my test. Then features such as "align bottom" for a selection of multiple nodes should are manipulating the absolute coordinates instead of using TikZ's alignment features (anchors etc.).
I understand generating such code is more difficult. Maybe it can be something to point at for the next version, who knows...
Thanks, this is good feedback. I think the difficulty lies not so much in code generation, but determining what a user would expect. If I click the "align bottom" button, I would be surprised if
suddenly were to get a new randomly named \coordinate and relative coordinate notation. On the other hand, if you start out with "nice" code, the app will in many cases refuse to let you drag things since it doesn't know (and in many cases can't know) what the drag should mean (do you change the named coordinate or change the offset to the coordinate etc).
Wow, awesome project! I gave a look a bit at the code (before realizing this was made with coding agents as said below on the website) and this seems really well made.
Still, I would really like to know how you approached this from an architecture perspective. I'm also curious to how much coding agents structured the code like so by themselves or if you had to steer them heavily (I've just tried a bit gemini flash from antigravity cli so I'm a bit behind on this).
Also how did you approach the rendering correspondence with actual tikz code? Do you have some tests that like render the tikz using latex and your js pipeline and compare the result for differences?
I know people like it, but I hate writing TikZ manually, to the point that I've mostly moved most of my technical-ish drawings to draw.io/diagrams.net, and then just export to a PNG. I feel like it's inelegant, but it works well enough and it's easy to make something that looks ok. Generally I'm all for text-defined stuff.
I have moved some of my stuff to Mermaid when I know my stuff is going to live in Markdown but I've not tried to get that working in TeX.
That said, I would like to use TikZ just because it's kind of the idiomatic way of doing diagrams in LaTeX, so a WYSIWYG might be useful.
One suggestion, I would like the arrows to be able to "attach" to the boxes, as in the arrow endpoints can move when you move the boxes. That's how draw.io does it.
> When using draw.io I’d suggest exporting to PDF instead of PNG so you keep it as vector graphics.
I had trouble getting that working (admittedly years ago) and as long as you have a high enough resolution people can't really tell a difference between it and SVG, though obviously it will make the filesize bigger.
Just tried the text nodes and indeed the arrows work. I guess I would also suggest doing the same for regular shapes.
Some years ago I wired it up with `asciidoctor-diagram` so we could have simple circuits in our Asciidoc maintenance manuals. The techs loved the hell out of it, and we could collaborate on the things in a git versioned ecosystem vs whatever fresh hell the PDM/ERP had for us.
As a student I really wanted something like this. Thanks for making it open source. My theoretical computer science prof happened to be Till Tantau the inventor of TikZ. An awesome communicator too.
Schleswig-Holsteiners are everywhere :) Till Tantau also started the beamer package for making LaTeX presentations. Both beamer and tikz are very important contributions to science communication.
Looks really nice. You might consider adding some presets to make it easier to get started, like some common neural net architectures and other use cases for TikZ.
I'm running Linux Mint (xfce version), and I installed the .deb version (TikZ.Editor_0.4.0_amd64.deb). It's very odd...for example, when I open it or do File/New, many (but not all) of the grid cells are rectangles, not squares. Am I doing something wrong, like installing the wrong version? Or maybe misinterpreting what the faint grey lines are?
Yeah that's odd, the grid should be square. Is the web version looking correct in the browser? Feel free to paste some screenshots into https://github.com/DominikPeters/tikz-editor/issues and I can look into it.
I think the web version looks correct, although the grid lines are so faint there that it's hard to tell. I'll paste some screenshots to that link--thanks for the work!
Exactly, I wanted to avoid that. In contrast, if you open an SVG in (for example) Inkscape and make a minimal change and save, the resulting file has little to do with the original.
This is superb. Will you consider adding support for pgfplots[1]? When I was a student I was long considering writing a native application for real-time TikZing.
I think pgfplots should in principle be possible. I've postponed it thus far because pgfplots is GPL licensed, while the editor is MIT licensed, so I would need to distribute pgfplots support as a separate add-on. But in due course, putting in add-on infrastructure could make sense, because it would also allow adding support for stuff like tikzcd and CircuiTikZ (or tikzpingus!).
Oh man, good on you identifying a product that needs to exist. I've used a few TikZ editors (both online and desktop) and none of them are just amazing.
But, I've taken my papers to Typst. Could you have the agent do the same thing for Cetz, the TikZ equivalent for Typst?
Tangential, but how has the publishing process been for Typst?
I'm looking to write a paper on a recent project, but most of the places I've seen to submit has asked for TeX. I greatly prefer Typst because of the ridiculously fast compilation times but I haven't used it for anything outside of school assignments do to that restriction.
I don't use Typst myself and am not familiar with Cetz. From the docs it looks like it's in early stages of development, so it doesn't feel like the right time to do this to me (or at least should be a separate, perhaps forked, app). But certainly it would make sense to develop bidirectional converters that could in particular be used at file open and file save in this app.
Generally yes! It is permissively licensed. I originally considered writing this app as a VS Code extension (because most app ideas that include a source editor are more simply done as an extension) but then decided that I wanted to have more control over the source view.
Perfect! I've been working on a general purpose Swiss army knife for technical note taking/ knowledge management/ sharing. This could very well be an add-on missing piece for heavier latex rendering and editing. Thank you!
Intriguing thought. Of course by writing code it can be done
\foreach \i in {1,...,5} {
\node[circle, draw] (n\i) at ({90 - 72*(\i-1)}:1cm) {$\i$};
}
but I'm not sure how to expose that as a UI in a nice way (maybe: if something uses polar coordinates and the user holds shift, then during drag the radius stays fixed, and I nudge towards even angular spacing + multiples of 15 degrees?)
A simpler way to do this would be for the user to create and place some temporary virtual "grids". For example, the user might create a virtual triangle of a certain size. Or in the case of this request, a circle with n points. Note that these are virtual and temporary items never created in the underlying tikz code (though you may implement them with hidden tikz code).
Then the user can do one of two things. (1) Select an item and place it on the grid, and the item gets replicated on all the grid points. (2) Pick and place different items on each of the grid points.
> TikZ’s name is intended to warn people that TikZ is not a program that you can use to draw graphics with your mouse or tablet. Rather, it is more like a “graphics language”.
While making the app I was worried that I was going against the TikZ philosophy. Maybe I should have named it "TikZ ist doch ein Zeichenprogramm" (TideZ)..
At some point the people who seethe with hate for AI, and claim it's all hallucinations and illegitimate hype, are going to have to admit they were wrong. Projects like this are the proof staring them right in the face, if they care to look.
That's cool. I guess it doesn't support TikZ' relative positioning (left of etc) because WYSIWYG features like drag-and-drop require absolute positioning?
It does support editing it if relative positioning is used in the code, i.e. if you drag the object it will continue being relatively positioned. But if you add new elements with the various tools, they will be absolutely positioned (not sure what would be a good UI for switching an element to relative positioning) unless you edit the source. You can try with
\begin{tikzpicture}
\node[draw] (A) at (0,0) {A};
\node[draw, right of=A] (B) {B};
\end{tikzpicture}
> not sure what would be a good UI for switching an element to relative positioning
1. Right-click on an existing object, offer drop-down context menu.
2. Menu item `Position relative to...`.
3. The cursor now selects _other_ objects in the field.
a. If there is no other object, then offer to create a new label-less node with (x,y); default to the origin.
b. Once an object is selected, then offer `right of`, `left of`, `north of`, `south of`, `southeast of`, etc as a drop-down menu, and a field for radial displacement.
i. As a stretch goal, offer a `Custom position...` button to specify an (x, y) displacement, or a polar angle and radial displacement. These three options (fixed offsets, Cartesian, polar) could also be tabs in the resultant menu from (b) above.
I've tried it now a little. The UI looks very cool, and generally the project is cool so congrats!
However, the generated TikZ code is not good in my opinion. Everything uses absolute coordinates, which in TikZ is seldom needed.
Just to start, if I place a single node I get absolute coordinates for it. Why? If you just write `\node {Hello};`, TikZ will put that at the center of the bounding box. No need to tell it's at `(0.5,2.91)` like it's happening in my test. Then features such as "align bottom" for a selection of multiple nodes should are manipulating the absolute coordinates instead of using TikZ's alignment features (anchors etc.).
I understand generating such code is more difficult. Maybe it can be something to point at for the next version, who knows...
Thanks, this is good feedback. I think the difficulty lies not so much in code generation, but determining what a user would expect. If I click the "align bottom" button, I would be surprised if
suddenly were to get a new randomly named \coordinate and relative coordinate notation. On the other hand, if you start out with "nice" code, the app will in many cases refuse to let you drag things since it doesn't know (and in many cases can't know) what the drag should mean (do you change the named coordinate or change the offset to the coordinate etc).Elsewhere in this discussion, we talked about positioning like "right of", and some good suggestions were made (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48647683).
That's true for two `rectangle` paths, but for two nodes that's what I would expect as a user. Anyway, not an easy problem for sure.
Feel like could reference how those CAD script languages do it.
Wow, awesome project! I gave a look a bit at the code (before realizing this was made with coding agents as said below on the website) and this seems really well made.
Still, I would really like to know how you approached this from an architecture perspective. I'm also curious to how much coding agents structured the code like so by themselves or if you had to steer them heavily (I've just tried a bit gemini flash from antigravity cli so I'm a bit behind on this).
Also how did you approach the rendering correspondence with actual tikz code? Do you have some tests that like render the tikz using latex and your js pipeline and compare the result for differences?
Neat! I also enjoyed https://q.uiver.app/ by https://github.com/varkor which is a bit more specialized.
Yes, there are several editors for more specialized things. Other nice examples: https://tikzit.github.io/ and https://www.circuit2tikz.tf.fau.de/designer/ and https://tikzcd.yichuanshen.de/
I used lyx during university. Was super happy. Still have all my homework and lecuture notes.
https://www.lyx.org/
This is cool!
I know people like it, but I hate writing TikZ manually, to the point that I've mostly moved most of my technical-ish drawings to draw.io/diagrams.net, and then just export to a PNG. I feel like it's inelegant, but it works well enough and it's easy to make something that looks ok. Generally I'm all for text-defined stuff.
I have moved some of my stuff to Mermaid when I know my stuff is going to live in Markdown but I've not tried to get that working in TeX.
That said, I would like to use TikZ just because it's kind of the idiomatic way of doing diagrams in LaTeX, so a WYSIWYG might be useful.
One suggestion, I would like the arrows to be able to "attach" to the boxes, as in the arrow endpoints can move when you move the boxes. That's how draw.io does it.
Attachment works for (text) nodes because they have anchors - you should see green attachment dots when drawing new lines or moving existing lines.
When using draw.io I’d suggest exporting to PDF instead of PNG so you keep it as vector graphics.
> When using draw.io I’d suggest exporting to PDF instead of PNG so you keep it as vector graphics.
I had trouble getting that working (admittedly years ago) and as long as you have a high enough resolution people can't really tell a difference between it and SVG, though obviously it will make the filesize bigger.
Just tried the text nodes and indeed the arrows work. I guess I would also suggest doing the same for regular shapes.
Can't you save a drawio file as .drawio.svg?
I've done diagrams with it a few times and just used Computer Modern to make the diagrams look the same as the text. Good enough.
Ah, I love CircuitiTikZ. Only way to do simple text-based circuit diagrams.
https://ctan.org/pkg/circuitikz?lang=en
https://github.com/circuitikz/circuitikz
Some years ago I wired it up with `asciidoctor-diagram` so we could have simple circuits in our Asciidoc maintenance manuals. The techs loved the hell out of it, and we could collaborate on the things in a git versioned ecosystem vs whatever fresh hell the PDM/ERP had for us.
A very nice complement to the already awesome WireViz (https://github.com/wireviz/WireViz)
As a student I really wanted something like this. Thanks for making it open source. My theoretical computer science prof happened to be Till Tantau the inventor of TikZ. An awesome communicator too.
Schleswig-Holsteiners are everywhere :) Till Tantau also started the beamer package for making LaTeX presentations. Both beamer and tikz are very important contributions to science communication.
This is very cool, but I'm going to say the inevitable...
How hard would it be to support cetz? I'm not touching LaTeX if I can avoid it, but I'm using Typst all the time.
Probably quite doable with a coding agent.
There is a full wysiwyg (vibe-coded) presentation software based on typst available which partially implements exactly that:
https://codeberg.org/presenst/presenst
Looks really nice. You might consider adding some presets to make it easier to get started, like some common neural net architectures and other use cases for TikZ.
Good idea. There is File > Open Example, but it could be extended for sure. On desktop you can even directly open an arXiv paper!
I'm running Linux Mint (xfce version), and I installed the .deb version (TikZ.Editor_0.4.0_amd64.deb). It's very odd...for example, when I open it or do File/New, many (but not all) of the grid cells are rectangles, not squares. Am I doing something wrong, like installing the wrong version? Or maybe misinterpreting what the faint grey lines are?
Yeah that's odd, the grid should be square. Is the web version looking correct in the browser? Feel free to paste some screenshots into https://github.com/DominikPeters/tikz-editor/issues and I can look into it.
I think the web version looks correct, although the grid lines are so faint there that it's hard to tell. I'll paste some screenshots to that link--thanks for the work!
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This is cool, I vibecoded something similar for a school project, but this looks much more mature, thanks for sharing!
The killer feature for me is not drawing TikZ visually, but being able to touch old TikZ without turning the source into generated-looking soup.
Exactly, I wanted to avoid that. In contrast, if you open an SVG in (for example) Inkscape and make a minimal change and save, the resulting file has little to do with the original.
This is superb. Will you consider adding support for pgfplots[1]? When I was a student I was long considering writing a native application for real-time TikZing.
[1]: https://ctan.org/pkg/pgfplots?lang=en
I think pgfplots should in principle be possible. I've postponed it thus far because pgfplots is GPL licensed, while the editor is MIT licensed, so I would need to distribute pgfplots support as a separate add-on. But in due course, putting in add-on infrastructure could make sense, because it would also allow adding support for stuff like tikzcd and CircuiTikZ (or tikzpingus!).
Oh man, good on you identifying a product that needs to exist. I've used a few TikZ editors (both online and desktop) and none of them are just amazing.
But, I've taken my papers to Typst. Could you have the agent do the same thing for Cetz, the TikZ equivalent for Typst?
Tangential, but how has the publishing process been for Typst?
I'm looking to write a paper on a recent project, but most of the places I've seen to submit has asked for TeX. I greatly prefer Typst because of the ridiculously fast compilation times but I haven't used it for anything outside of school assignments do to that restriction.
I don't use Typst myself and am not familiar with Cetz. From the docs it looks like it's in early stages of development, so it doesn't feel like the right time to do this to me (or at least should be a separate, perhaps forked, app). But certainly it would make sense to develop bidirectional converters that could in particular be used at file open and file save in this app.
OMG! Psychiatrists are going to lose all of their graduate customers!
The world thanks you.
Is their anyone here old enough to remember Xfig ?
I was quite proud of the hours of work I had put in to configure it just so, with the 3d look and all.
I do. I used it in the late noughts for my cryptology BSc because I was too lazy/busy to learn TikZ proper
Tikz by hand for busy diagrams can be a whole lot of work.
What I loved about Xfig was that one could use latex and latex fonts in the diagrams.
Hey! I've always wanted something like this! Thanks for building this!
Ah this is so cool! Wish I had it in my research days.
> the kind of task that no human would ever want to do
I'm not an AI evangelist, but this kind of thing is such a welcome boon. More itches can be scratched!
Are you open to people repurposing this app as a plugin to larger apps like obsidian?
Generally yes! It is permissively licensed. I originally considered writing this app as a VS Code extension (because most app ideas that include a source editor are more simply done as an extension) but then decided that I wanted to have more control over the source view.
Perfect! I've been working on a general purpose Swiss army knife for technical note taking/ knowledge management/ sharing. This could very well be an add-on missing piece for heavier latex rendering and editing. Thank you!
I needed exactly this for years excellent work!
Here's what I would need: the ability to position five nodes in a circular fashion, so that they are evenly spaced.
Intriguing thought. Of course by writing code it can be done
but I'm not sure how to expose that as a UI in a nice way (maybe: if something uses polar coordinates and the user holds shift, then during drag the radius stays fixed, and I nudge towards even angular spacing + multiples of 15 degrees?)A simpler way to do this would be for the user to create and place some temporary virtual "grids". For example, the user might create a virtual triangle of a certain size. Or in the case of this request, a circle with n points. Note that these are virtual and temporary items never created in the underlying tikz code (though you may implement them with hidden tikz code).
Then the user can do one of two things. (1) Select an item and place it on the grid, and the item gets replicated on all the grid points. (2) Pick and place different items on each of the grid points.
That sounds like the array modifier in Blender
This is great, nice concept! Good use of coding agents. Now I can make diagrams much faster.
This is so cool. I would have loved this in college.
"TikZ ist kein Zeichenprogramm" (German for "TikZ is not a drawing program"). :-)
An explanation for the name from the TikZ docs:
> TikZ’s name is intended to warn people that TikZ is not a program that you can use to draw graphics with your mouse or tablet. Rather, it is more like a “graphics language”.
While making the app I was worried that I was going against the TikZ philosophy. Maybe I should have named it "TikZ ist doch ein Zeichenprogramm" (TideZ)..
Wow. I would have loved something like this when I was studying in University.
Great job! Thank you for making it open source.
At some point the people who seethe with hate for AI, and claim it's all hallucinations and illegitimate hype, are going to have to admit they were wrong. Projects like this are the proof staring them right in the face, if they care to look.
They’ve updated their criticisms since - bottom of career ladder disruption, skill atrophy.
(Not on HN but I do still see some folks who last tested LLMs before Nov ‘25, those folks might still be mostly out of touch.)
That's cool. I guess it doesn't support TikZ' relative positioning (left of etc) because WYSIWYG features like drag-and-drop require absolute positioning?
It does support editing it if relative positioning is used in the code, i.e. if you drag the object it will continue being relatively positioned. But if you add new elements with the various tools, they will be absolutely positioned (not sure what would be a good UI for switching an element to relative positioning) unless you edit the source. You can try with
> not sure what would be a good UI for switching an element to relative positioning
You could use this same UI/UX for `anchor`, too.That's awesome! Long overdue.
Wow, this is really, really great. Congratulations on an excellent offering and piece of tech!