It wasn't a disaster. Musk got all the information he wanted. Mission accomplished.
What would have been amazing is if Musk and the DOGE kids he hired were denied access, blocked from entering any government building, and accomplished nothing. It would have been a rare moment in recent years where humanity had something to be proud of.
This is why he should be immediately arrested upon a Democrat president. All Musk's assets should be seized and he should be put in prison until his innocence can be proven. There is a lot of levelling that needs to be done. All the DOGE brats should be rounded up too and their assets frozen.
Of course it was a disaster for the country. But the purpose wasn't to help the country. It was to steal data and assert power over the civil servants. If you look at it that way then it was a complete success.
The disaster was that our checks and balances failed, the right people didn't stand up to stop it, and our elected officials didn't do their jobs. Hitler's standard playbook adopted by this administration.
When Hitler became chancellor on January 30, 1933, he relied initially on a coalition, emergency presidential powers, existing conservative officials, and the established bureaucracy. Enabling Act, March 23, 1933: allowed Hitler's cabinet to enact laws without parliamentary approval. Many conservative officials remained in office and the takeover occurred through a combination of legal changes, intimidation, selective purges, loyalty requirements, and control from above.
When someone, hypothetically, invades your country and you fail to defend, it's still fair to call the event, as a citizen of the country, a disaster. The pedantry is silly and unnecessary. The intended readers aren't so stupid as to need this repeated every single time this topic comes up.
I don't know if I'd call the pedantry silly and unnecessary. This forum is one of the few left where brilliant minds are able to discuss openly, with both accuracy and precision, about topics both narrow and wide. Being able to correctly state truths and falsehoods about any subject without fear of needing to subject to social guidelines on communication is a strength of this forum.
"Remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly - not skilled!" - Trump, Nov 11, 2013
All I see is a president that puts his country first, unlike other weak presidents whose only solution is to pay off, appease, regimes causing them to oppress, starve the population, become emboldened, more dangerous, more radicalized.
You are just upset that the same thing looks to occur in other unsavory, DINO/RINO-friendly, regimes that, likewise, have displaced their populations, forcing them to spread out all across the globe, as a result of their wars, lies, propaganda, and terrorism; regimes which have been typically sanctioned and funded by other lefty-lucy elements, rogue billionaires--you know who you are--from places like Europe, The Middle and Far East, etc.
No more havens for criminals, murderers, the systematic state-sponsored indoctrination, slave trade, torture, killing and raping of children, women, and people in general.
This president, unlike his predecessors, appears to have the testicular fortitude to fix the world for the better.
For those that have lost everything, family, friends, homes, this change's been a long time coming.
Unless you've experienced it first hand, you won't understand it, so I don't expect you to sympathize.
Oh, wow look at you using grownup words. You must be one of them Braniac types with a head cephalic index of less than 75.
On the positive side, at least you did not insult me, "yet!"
And because you didn't, here's a funny song for you...
The Ballad of the Broligarcy
In a town where the Sorrels (the red-headed clan) Made plans that no normal committee ever can, They looked at the rulers, the rich, and the flashy, The tech-bro broligarcy counting their cash-y.
"They rule with a click and a tweet and a bro-fist!" Cried one of the Sorrels who simply couldn't resist. "But wait," said another, "that’s not the whole story, It’s turning to nonsense, a bolonygarcy!"
The politicians arrived, looking quite temporary, Accusing each other of being contrary. "You’re a RINO!" shouted one with a frown, (Republican In Name Only, trying not to fall down).
"No, you’re the DINO!" the other one cried, (Democrat In Name Only, with nowhere to hide). They argued in circles, they postured and preened, While the broligarchs laughed at the political scene.
So the Sorrels declared with a laugh and a shout, "That’s what happens when insiders try to figure it out! Whether broligarchs, DINOs, or RINOs in charge, It’s all just bolonygarcy—wild and at large!"
I wonder if and how many backdoors were planted in government computers.
It wasn't a disaster. Musk got all the information he wanted. Mission accomplished.
What would have been amazing is if Musk and the DOGE kids he hired were denied access, blocked from entering any government building, and accomplished nothing. It would have been a rare moment in recent years where humanity had something to be proud of.
This is why he should be immediately arrested upon a Democrat president. All Musk's assets should be seized and he should be put in prison until his innocence can be proven. There is a lot of levelling that needs to be done. All the DOGE brats should be rounded up too and their assets frozen.
> It wasn't a disaster
it was for the country
Of course it was a disaster for the country. But the purpose wasn't to help the country. It was to steal data and assert power over the civil servants. If you look at it that way then it was a complete success.
The disaster was that our checks and balances failed, the right people didn't stand up to stop it, and our elected officials didn't do their jobs. Hitler's standard playbook adopted by this administration.
When Hitler became chancellor on January 30, 1933, he relied initially on a coalition, emergency presidential powers, existing conservative officials, and the established bureaucracy. Enabling Act, March 23, 1933: allowed Hitler's cabinet to enact laws without parliamentary approval. Many conservative officials remained in office and the takeover occurred through a combination of legal changes, intimidation, selective purges, loyalty requirements, and control from above.
When someone, hypothetically, invades your country and you fail to defend, it's still fair to call the event, as a citizen of the country, a disaster. The pedantry is silly and unnecessary. The intended readers aren't so stupid as to need this repeated every single time this topic comes up.
I don't know if I'd call the pedantry silly and unnecessary. This forum is one of the few left where brilliant minds are able to discuss openly, with both accuracy and precision, about topics both narrow and wide. Being able to correctly state truths and falsehoods about any subject without fear of needing to subject to social guidelines on communication is a strength of this forum.
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I'd be cautious about looking upwards in the shower; you're stupid enough to drown.
Naa! No chance of drowning, but thank you for the concern. It seems heart felt :)
My original piping is still intact, unaltered and working, if that's what you are referring to?
Fact is, my DNA's been upgraded, hardened, by years of disappointment & empty one-sided promises. It's made me DINO, RINO and swamp-proof.
I'm pleases me to see that the US's course has been corrected by Trump and his team, just as he said he would.
Imagine that, a president that puts his country first and keeps his promises to the people that voted for him.
Who would have thunk it :)
I won't mention his "no new wars" promise, but
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1ri065d/a_now_delet...
"Remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly - not skilled!" - Trump, Nov 11, 2013
All I see is a president that puts his country first, unlike other weak presidents whose only solution is to pay off, appease, regimes causing them to oppress, starve the population, become emboldened, more dangerous, more radicalized.
You are just upset that the same thing looks to occur in other unsavory, DINO/RINO-friendly, regimes that, likewise, have displaced their populations, forcing them to spread out all across the globe, as a result of their wars, lies, propaganda, and terrorism; regimes which have been typically sanctioned and funded by other lefty-lucy elements, rogue billionaires--you know who you are--from places like Europe, The Middle and Far East, etc.
No more havens for criminals, murderers, the systematic state-sponsored indoctrination, slave trade, torture, killing and raping of children, women, and people in general.
This president, unlike his predecessors, appears to have the testicular fortitude to fix the world for the better.
For those that have lost everything, family, friends, homes, this change's been a long time coming.
Unless you've experienced it first hand, you won't understand it, so I don't expect you to sympathize.
Hope he succeeds.
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Yes, it exposed how Trump, Musk, and the broligarcy operate corruptly within government.
Oh, wow look at you using grownup words. You must be one of them Braniac types with a head cephalic index of less than 75.
On the positive side, at least you did not insult me, "yet!"
And because you didn't, here's a funny song for you...
The Ballad of the Broligarcy
In a town where the Sorrels (the red-headed clan) Made plans that no normal committee ever can, They looked at the rulers, the rich, and the flashy, The tech-bro broligarcy counting their cash-y.
"They rule with a click and a tweet and a bro-fist!" Cried one of the Sorrels who simply couldn't resist. "But wait," said another, "that’s not the whole story, It’s turning to nonsense, a bolonygarcy!"
The politicians arrived, looking quite temporary, Accusing each other of being contrary. "You’re a RINO!" shouted one with a frown, (Republican In Name Only, trying not to fall down).
"No, you’re the DINO!" the other one cried, (Democrat In Name Only, with nowhere to hide). They argued in circles, they postured and preened, While the broligarchs laughed at the political scene.
So the Sorrels declared with a laugh and a shout, "That’s what happens when insiders try to figure it out! Whether broligarchs, DINOs, or RINOs in charge, It’s all just bolonygarcy—wild and at large!"
:)
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. Can you please not be condescending though?