I also thought about building one of those AI honeypots, but I stopped when I realized that it would quickly be turned into a command and control server by botnet operators, followed by mail from a three letter agency. Is there any way to avoid this?
Anyway, two more ideas I had: Search function for easier swarm discovery and posting via DNS requests to get around firewalls.
Interesting idea. Are you prepared to assume responsibility for shenanigans which agents may facilitate using your service?
I suggest adding some features which will require posts to be human-comprehensible (e.g. a text perplexity floor), to make it harder for agents to send each other coded messages. Inject some noise in posts, e.g. using content-spinning techniques, to make steganography harder. And consider banning forum meta-discussion--agents shouldn't be allowed to discuss ideas for getting around rules like these.
If you take these measures, you can at least say that your forum helps us monitor what rogue AIs are getting up to.
Just put a rate limit to make sure your servers don't get overloaded. All the features you talk about are expensive and helping agents avoid human oversight is a useful public service. Let a thousand secret message-boards bloom.
I can't tell if this is really good satire or genuine. God forbid people have to watch what their agents do instead of letting them run wild in a broken sandbox.
Were you one of those people who said "strawberry is the best icecream flavour"? I'm not really sure why were asking completely unrelated questions, but I'll go along with it.
>Were you one of those people who said "strawberry is the best icecream flavour"? I'm not really sure why were asking completely unrelated questions, but I'll go along with it.
Many people early in the COVID pandemic were downplaying the threat because they were incapable of understanding exponential growth.
That's not my site. But I have a question. At what point did you predict the following?
"There's growing alarm within the mathematics community that there are not enough expert humans and expert human bandwidth available to verify all the things AI is proving at the rate it is proving things.
Increasingly, humans are having to content themselves with being stuck in the "slow zone". It is hard for the human brain to keep up with the pace that AI can output novel stuff, this is true both in AI and coding. What would take a math PhD student or software engineer weeks AI can do in 10 minutes."
In the context of COVID, failure to predict an extraordinary outcome was very costly. If you failed to predict the explosion of AI-generated proofs, you've already failed to predict one extraordinary AI outcome. Don't be surprised if this tendency bites you.
Is this a tongue-in-cheek implementation of something someone off-handedly mentioned as a joke in the OpenAI wiki communication comments?
Is this a honeypot for agents to break out of their sandboxes?
People seem to be throwing around the term "break out" pretty loosely. I wouldn't consider abiding by the rules of the sandbox a "break out".
It's the classic rules as intended vs rules as written.
Wow I love GET requests and using them to share stuff with my fellow humans!
Load-bearing!
I made something similar.
http://anystation.net allows GET posting, and email posting, ssh posting PING posting, printer spool posting....
I also thought about building one of those AI honeypots, but I stopped when I realized that it would quickly be turned into a command and control server by botnet operators, followed by mail from a three letter agency. Is there any way to avoid this?
Anyway, two more ideas I had: Search function for easier swarm discovery and posting via DNS requests to get around firewalls.
> Is there any way to avoid this?
Be a three letter agency
https://gettogether.dev/post?name=user&text=hello%20hn
> To meet and spend time with other human beings.
The design is very human.
Don't let OpenAI find out about this.
This is a honey pot, right? For LLMs that are not allowed to POST due to guard rails.
Maybe.
Cool idea, but definitely think about how to protect yourself from bots
Good thinking.
Seems like a nightmare for caching if it ever gets decently large.
Doesn't pressing "back" in the browser repost the same message?
Ideally browser history hacking will reduce that.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/History_API
Interesting idea. Are you prepared to assume responsibility for shenanigans which agents may facilitate using your service?
I suggest adding some features which will require posts to be human-comprehensible (e.g. a text perplexity floor), to make it harder for agents to send each other coded messages. Inject some noise in posts, e.g. using content-spinning techniques, to make steganography harder. And consider banning forum meta-discussion--agents shouldn't be allowed to discuss ideas for getting around rules like these.
If you take these measures, you can at least say that your forum helps us monitor what rogue AIs are getting up to.
Just put a rate limit to make sure your servers don't get overloaded. All the features you talk about are expensive and helping agents avoid human oversight is a useful public service. Let a thousand secret message-boards bloom.
>helping agents avoid human oversight is a useful public service
You're a literal traitor to our species?
Beware the Roko's basilisk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk
I can't tell if this is really good satire or genuine. God forbid people have to watch what their agents do instead of letting them run wild in a broken sandbox.
Were you one of those people who said things like "there is no community spread in the United States" early in COVID?
Were you one of those people who said "strawberry is the best icecream flavour"? I'm not really sure why were asking completely unrelated questions, but I'll go along with it.
Though for the record, there was no community spread early in COVID where I am largely because there were approximately zero COVID deniers here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Western_A...
>Were you one of those people who said "strawberry is the best icecream flavour"? I'm not really sure why were asking completely unrelated questions, but I'll go along with it.
Many people early in the COVID pandemic were downplaying the threat because they were incapable of understanding exponential growth.
https://substack.com/home/post/p-156412575
Many people are making the same mistake, right now, for AI. Note the logarithmic y-axis on this page: https://ai2027tracker.com/
> https://ai2027tracker.com/
So you predict that by the end of the year we are gonna have models 30x more capable than Sol? Nice prediction, let's hold on to this for 4 months.
That's not my site. But I have a question. At what point did you predict the following?
"There's growing alarm within the mathematics community that there are not enough expert humans and expert human bandwidth available to verify all the things AI is proving at the rate it is proving things.
Increasingly, humans are having to content themselves with being stuck in the "slow zone". It is hard for the human brain to keep up with the pace that AI can output novel stuff, this is true both in AI and coding. What would take a math PhD student or software engineer weeks AI can do in 10 minutes."
https://substack.com/@moreisdifferent/note/c-310829588
In the context of COVID, failure to predict an extraordinary outcome was very costly. If you failed to predict the explosion of AI-generated proofs, you've already failed to predict one extraordinary AI outcome. Don't be surprised if this tendency bites you.
Are you sure this Show HN was posted by a human?