It is kind of funny to me that the author is complaining about software that's already "done" being tweaked with AI. If it's done, just use an old version!
Anti-AI people don't seem to really live in reality. All AI = Slop (which is an absurd viewpoint) and that's the end of it. They have their purity tests and real outcomes don't matter to them.
Complaining about open source projects (which you can fork!) using a tool you have some objection to is just the newest low they've sunk to. Might as well rail against using clang, it's make about as much sense.
> Anti-AI people don't seem to really live in reality. All AI = Slop (which is an absurd viewpoint) and that's the end of it. They have their purity tests and real outcomes don't matter to them.
Not sure why you think this guy has built his entire personality around software. He is arguing against slop in free software. Being political about it is pretty normal I would say
I wish they had made this rant focusing on their ethical disagreements with AI-generated coding. Defining any software made/with as “slop” is silly to me. Say you hate AI and won’t use it on principle, don’t try to make it sound like AI can only be used to make low quality products, because that’s objectively wrong.
Would it matter? From the article "So I go and find the website and source repo so I can link them, but then I spot fucking "claude" has been used literally this week, for the first time."
There's no discussion about the quality of what Claude did, or even if that was investigate. It's "I see Claude, I call it slop". So look at the contributor list, notice there are ai agents in it, and it's therefore no good anymore.
Good, because the slop era is over. LLMs can now deliver software of consistently better quality than humans can, much faster, and are more thorough in hunting down bugs and considering corner cases to boot.
I'd argue that the main thing producing slop is the human-with-ai cyborg. While the ai is maybe better at writing code, the range of humans prompting it has gotten stupider. So now we have projects like a bloodborne PC '''port''' which is absolutely slop and just packaging the emulator because someone told an ai to make native decompiled bloodborne.
This website hurts my eyes to read and the writing style is grating, not claude-level grating but I don't care for it.
> And the fucking disrespect from the developers overhwelms me.
The amount of entitlement in this typo'd sentence [0] is staggering. Developers who are spending their time/energy/money making software you get for _free_ are disrespecting you, the user, by developing the software however they see fit? Get off your high horse.
If you don't like it, fork it. Stop complaining about other people's free work.
These anti-LLM stances are so incredibly cringe and boring.
[0] PS: Not proof reading or spell checking just makes you look incompetent. Much like the rest of the author's stance, they seem to prefer to live in ignorance rather than utilize the technology available to them.
If the "slop'd" versions are so horrible I'm sure you'll have no problem attracting people your fork.
Unless of course, no one actually cares, it's just the newest things people can rage about online. Enjoy your purity tests, I'm sure it will work out great for you.
Not sure I follow - the great thing about open source is that you can just fork it and use an old version forever, if that's what you want.
Open source projects evolve the same way closed projects do - users come up with ideas and contribute, propose things they think are cool, etc.
It is kind of funny to me that the author is complaining about software that's already "done" being tweaked with AI. If it's done, just use an old version!
Anti-AI people don't seem to really live in reality. All AI = Slop (which is an absurd viewpoint) and that's the end of it. They have their purity tests and real outcomes don't matter to them.
Complaining about open source projects (which you can fork!) using a tool you have some objection to is just the newest low they've sunk to. Might as well rail against using clang, it's make about as much sense.
> Anti-AI people don't seem to really live in reality. All AI = Slop (which is an absurd viewpoint) and that's the end of it. They have their purity tests and real outcomes don't matter to them.
Strawman
and get hacked instantly because nothing has had the project glasswing slop fixes? yeah cool good idea
"Ah fuck, they hacked my GIMP! My name is about to go through like 17 computers a day!"
Daily reminder not build your entire personality around software and other gimmicky hobbies/jobs
Not sure why you think this guy has built his entire personality around software. He is arguing against slop in free software. Being political about it is pretty normal I would say
Do you know where you are right now?
software is a part of my life whenever i want it to be or not. i do not want that software to contain slop.
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I wish they had made this rant focusing on their ethical disagreements with AI-generated coding. Defining any software made/with as “slop” is silly to me. Say you hate AI and won’t use it on principle, don’t try to make it sound like AI can only be used to make low quality products, because that’s objectively wrong.
Fine. Link me the highest quality piece of code written with ai.
Here's two big ones to start. But I have a feeling that an arbitrarily large list won't change your mind.
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/lin...
https://github.com/astral-sh/uv
What part?
Would it matter? From the article "So I go and find the website and source repo so I can link them, but then I spot fucking "claude" has been used literally this week, for the first time."
There's no discussion about the quality of what Claude did, or even if that was investigate. It's "I see Claude, I call it slop". So look at the contributor list, notice there are ai agents in it, and it's therefore no good anymore.
Good, because the slop era is over. LLMs can now deliver software of consistently better quality than humans can, much faster, and are more thorough in hunting down bugs and considering corner cases to boot.
I'd argue that the main thing producing slop is the human-with-ai cyborg. While the ai is maybe better at writing code, the range of humans prompting it has gotten stupider. So now we have projects like a bloodborne PC '''port''' which is absolutely slop and just packaging the emulator because someone told an ai to make native decompiled bloodborne.
This website hurts my eyes to read and the writing style is grating, not claude-level grating but I don't care for it.
> And the fucking disrespect from the developers overhwelms me.
The amount of entitlement in this typo'd sentence [0] is staggering. Developers who are spending their time/energy/money making software you get for _free_ are disrespecting you, the user, by developing the software however they see fit? Get off your high horse.
If you don't like it, fork it. Stop complaining about other people's free work.
These anti-LLM stances are so incredibly cringe and boring.
[0] PS: Not proof reading or spell checking just makes you look incompetent. Much like the rest of the author's stance, they seem to prefer to live in ignorance rather than utilize the technology available to them.
okay yeah sure bro ill just maintain a pre slop fork of firefox and thunderbird and linux and libreoffice and
Sounds like a personal problem
If the "slop'd" versions are so horrible I'm sure you'll have no problem attracting people your fork.
Unless of course, no one actually cares, it's just the newest things people can rage about online. Enjoy your purity tests, I'm sure it will work out great for you.