So I've heard four or so possible explanations for why he got fired.
Relationship with likely Chinese Spy.
Ignoring export ban.
Relationship with Nvidia direct report
Combination of those things
The third one is something there are a lot of examples other then Huang getting the boot for. The first and second require "they won't say it but this is the real reason". Maybe they are the reason but the third seems a simpler explanation.
More like: Don't be seduced into industrial/foreign espionage by a supposed sub-ordinate, allowing that leverage to be used to negotiate contracts and smuggle 1000s of GPUs into China, particularly right after the GOP lose the mid-terms and the two superpowers are likely to start fighting over Taiwan.
Just waiting for some key Infra or DevOps Engineer to get compromised by an actual AI in a honeypot tbh. Their attack surface is exponentially bigger and just as impactful.
> Lesson learned - don't have affairs?
not sure that's the lesson.
maybe more like bend the knee otherwise they'll find any reason to take you down. we have plenty of rich people in the US that were in the eptsein island that are doing just fine or even better than before.
or maybe the lesson is if you're asian/chinese maybe don't build your wealth the US or the will just take it when it convenient like they did with tiktok before ?
or maybe be more like mark zukerberg and don't leave any decision power to the board ?
This is about, selling "arms" to China. Full stop. The salacious details are what the American public cares about. The security establishment is a bit more concerned that GPUs that were banned were being sold to China.
This isn't opinion about whether than ban is justified; it's about the legal exposure he created.
Even before this saga, he was responsible for hanging consumers out to dry by destroying the consumer PC market in chase of more profit. He is gambling with the world economy. He appears on interviews being a dick about all of this.
I just hope those things do just as much damage to one's legacy. But apparently not in today's world.
Not really, NVIDIA is the knot holding all AI in USA. So we will see AI burst accelerate. He will just retire with his 150B. His legacy is great. As for extra marital, hahaha....BGates even worst considering his island tie. Elon and that Telegram guy had hundreds. In Chinese culture Jensen having mistresses is expected. The only issue is really how pretty and how many. There more Chinese than entire whites. So I say his legacy is quite good. You worry about the incoming AI burst.
If you commit to someone that you won't sleep with anyone else, keep your commitments. While his arrangement with his wife isn't my business, he admitted he violated her trust.
Further, nvidia has a policy which he agreed to regarding relationships with other employees, which he appears to have violated.
no him having affirs or multiple ones isn't necessary the problem here
I mean IFF you having a "proper" image matters then it is, I don't think this is the case here.
The problem here is him failing to keep work and affairs separate, one of them seeming to have a high chance to be a Chinese spy AND most relevantly a long ongoing problem with export restricted products of your company ending up in China in multiple different ways which look like insider knowledge was involved and to make that worse some of the past situations did look a lot like Nvidia actively helping/taking advantage of the black market. This wasn't well covered by dominant US media, but enough people with influence have noticed it anyway.
so no this hasn't much to do with racism, but long standing issues being funneled through an outrage due to "improper behavior" while already many stock holders where expecting an incoming stock downturn for one or another reason.
putting that aside, if Musk wouldn't own the companies he leads with dominant shares he would have long been ousted. Actually various stock holders have multiple times tried to oust him due to him acting in his best interest instead of that of the company AFIK
Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50467087
But for the alleged Chinese espionage connection he'd be fine.
So I've heard four or so possible explanations for why he got fired.
Relationship with likely Chinese Spy. Ignoring export ban. Relationship with Nvidia direct report Combination of those things
The third one is something there are a lot of examples other then Huang getting the boot for. The first and second require "they won't say it but this is the real reason". Maybe they are the reason but the third seems a simpler explanation.
Non-AI slop source: https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/1031689/...
Confirmed by CNBC in last 5 minutes he has resigned effective immediately. Lesson learned - don't have affairs?
Don't have multiple affairs. Especially with people in the company or with people that will spark federal investigations.
It's this one. Don't shit where you eat, ffs.
More like: Don't be seduced into industrial/foreign espionage by a supposed sub-ordinate, allowing that leverage to be used to negotiate contracts and smuggle 1000s of GPUs into China, particularly right after the GOP lose the mid-terms and the two superpowers are likely to start fighting over Taiwan.
Just waiting for some key Infra or DevOps Engineer to get compromised by an actual AI in a honeypot tbh. Their attack surface is exponentially bigger and just as impactful.
> Lesson learned - don't have affairs? not sure that's the lesson.
maybe more like bend the knee otherwise they'll find any reason to take you down. we have plenty of rich people in the US that were in the eptsein island that are doing just fine or even better than before.
or maybe the lesson is if you're asian/chinese maybe don't build your wealth the US or the will just take it when it convenient like they did with tiktok before ?
or maybe be more like mark zukerberg and don't leave any decision power to the board ?
I'm not sure which one.
This is about, selling "arms" to China. Full stop. The salacious details are what the American public cares about. The security establishment is a bit more concerned that GPUs that were banned were being sold to China.
This isn't opinion about whether than ban is justified; it's about the legal exposure he created.
No, don't cause national security incidents to the kind of national security incidents.
Amazing way to destroy your legacy in just a short time. It always amazes me how long this was kept under wraps
Even before this saga, he was responsible for hanging consumers out to dry by destroying the consumer PC market in chase of more profit. He is gambling with the world economy. He appears on interviews being a dick about all of this.
I just hope those things do just as much damage to one's legacy. But apparently not in today's world.
What he said about kids not needing to learn to read for example because of the AI world we are going into, that pushed him way past the line for me.
Not really, NVIDIA is the knot holding all AI in USA. So we will see AI burst accelerate. He will just retire with his 150B. His legacy is great. As for extra marital, hahaha....BGates even worst considering his island tie. Elon and that Telegram guy had hundreds. In Chinese culture Jensen having mistresses is expected. The only issue is really how pretty and how many. There more Chinese than entire whites. So I say his legacy is quite good. You worry about the incoming AI burst.
Well moral of the story, learn from Elon Musk how to navigate relationships with women and structure companies
lol. getting honey trapped is a real trap!
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If you commit to someone that you won't sleep with anyone else, keep your commitments. While his arrangement with his wife isn't my business, he admitted he violated her trust.
Further, nvidia has a policy which he agreed to regarding relationships with other employees, which he appears to have violated.
Each comoany will have their own policies.
no him having affirs or multiple ones isn't necessary the problem here
I mean IFF you having a "proper" image matters then it is, I don't think this is the case here.
The problem here is him failing to keep work and affairs separate, one of them seeming to have a high chance to be a Chinese spy AND most relevantly a long ongoing problem with export restricted products of your company ending up in China in multiple different ways which look like insider knowledge was involved and to make that worse some of the past situations did look a lot like Nvidia actively helping/taking advantage of the black market. This wasn't well covered by dominant US media, but enough people with influence have noticed it anyway.
so no this hasn't much to do with racism, but long standing issues being funneled through an outrage due to "improper behavior" while already many stock holders where expecting an incoming stock downturn for one or another reason.
putting that aside, if Musk wouldn't own the companies he leads with dominant shares he would have long been ousted. Actually various stock holders have multiple times tried to oust him due to him acting in his best interest instead of that of the company AFIK
One has Kompromat on Trump. It's not hard to understand the difference.
The obvious answer is that Musk's companies don't care about ethics or being able to trust the person in charge to not be lying, and NVIDIA does.
You're not the first to try to inject racial tensions into this story. Stop it.
Because said tensions are the elephant in the room maybe?